Microsoft might be revising the Xbox One hardware before it even releases

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Don Vito Corleone ? Videocard: AMD | NVIDIA Processor: Core i7 2600K Mainboard: P67 Memory: 8GB Soundcard: X-Fi - GigaWorks 7.1 PSU: 1200 Watt	All DRM stuff aside there seems to be more drama inbound for the XBOX One. The Xbox One's hardware isn't all too impressive when compared to its main competitor, the PS4 ... Microsoft might be revising the Xbox One hardware before it even releases
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Master Guru ? Videocard: 2 x nVidia 670 sli Processor: Intel 3770k Mainboard: Asus P8z77-v pro Memory: DDR3 32GB Corsair Soundcard: Creative Labs Recon 3D PSU: Corsair 1.05kw	ugh. What a mess of confusion and identity this box has, I'd hate to work on the marketing/PR for it. Is it a games console or not? Pick a lane.
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Member Guru ? Videocard: Gigabyte GTX670 Windforce Processor: i5 3570K @ 4.2 Mainboard: Asus P8Z77-I DELUXE Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8gb LP Soundcard: Creative Soundblaster Pro PSU: Corsair 650HX	Let me get this right, they will "upgrade" their hardware in order to be competitive with the PS4, but the Xbox will still cost 100$ more? This is stupid. If i have to choose i'd still buy the PS4 if they have the same specs. And with the 100 bucks i'd get me a 2nd controller and a game maybe.
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Master Guru ? Videocard: 3x EVGA GTX 780's Tri-SLI Processor: Core i7 3970X 4.0ghz Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 Memory: 32GB DDR3 Corsair 1600mhz Soundcard: Creative SB Titanium HD PSU: CM Silent Pro Gold 1200w	Putting more DDR3 RAM into the GPU won't help much. It needs to be GDDR5. Either way, i'm not buying an Xbone. F*** M$
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Ancient Guru ? Videocard: GTX 780 Processor: Core i7 920 3.7GHz HT Mainboard: Asus P6T Deluxe V1 Memory: 6GB DDR3 Soundcard: On board PSU: Corsair TX750 V1
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Master Guru ? Videocard: 2 x nVidia 670 sli Processor: Intel 3770k Mainboard: Asus P8z77-v pro Memory: DDR3 32GB Corsair Soundcard: Creative Labs Recon 3D PSU: Corsair 1.05kw	Quote: Let me get this right, they will "upgrade" their hardware in order to be competitive with the PS4, but the Xbox will still cost 100$ more? This is stupid. If i have to choose i'd still buy the PS4 if they have the same specs. And with the 100 bucks i'd get me a 2nd controller and a game maybe. yup. I'm not buying a new games console until some games come out that I'd want to play. Already got great games on the console I got for when friends head over, I got no need(s) to get me a new console yet. Give it a year or two and I'll bet that'll change, maybe sooner, maybe not. IF GTA 5 was a launch title...man that'll be a strong persuader for me.
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Newbie ? Videocard: Gigabyte GTX770 OC 4GB Processor: Intel i5 3570K @ 4.4Ghz Mainboard: ASRock Z77 EXTREME4 Memory: 16GB G.Skill DDR3-1600 Soundcard: X-Fi XtremeGamer PSU: CORSAIR AX760	If I wasn't a dedicated and thoroughly satisfied PC gamer, I'd not even consider the XBox One but would automatically go for the PS4, and not because of the CPU speed, or the quantity of RAM, but because of the price. $100 is nothing to laugh at! And on a side note, what's with the "Meanwhile in Taiwan ... " caption for the picture? Sony is a Japanese company, unless it's some sort of inside joke.
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Master Guru ? Videocard: GTX 780 SLI 3GB Processor: Intel i7 3930K 4.3Ghz Mainboard: Intel X79 Memory: 16GB DDR 1600 @ 1866 Soundcard: Logitech Z-2300 PSU: Delta 875W	Quote: And on a side note, what's with the "Meanwhile in Taiwan ... " caption for the picture? Sony is a Japanese company, unless it's some sort of inside joke. Dunno. All the stuff is made is Taiwan is it not?
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Don Pinguccino ? Videocard: XFX Radeon HD 6870 Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K @4.5 Mainboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H Memory: Patriot 4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Soundcard: Auzentech X-Raider 7.1 PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W	First of all, how is Titanfall already hitting 5 GB of RAM? Does that mean it'll need that much for PCs too when it launches on PCs? (Do note that 5 GB includes graphics data since the XBOX One and the PS4 have unified memory pools, so likely 4 GB system + 1 GB graphics or something like that). Secondly, Sony is from Japan, not Taiwan. The chips are likely fabricated in Taiwan through TSMC though. However, most components are likely made and assembled in China. Thirdly, even if you increase the RAM size, it doesn't account for the potential bottleneck of DDR3, the ESRAM at 32 MB is still pretty small. Sure, it acts as a buffer, but not sure if developers can fully realize the SRAM. I heard from other sources that Microsoft has been tweaking the ESRAM to match and in some cases exceed the bandwidth provided by GDDR5. Some people have also pointed out about latency issues with GDDR5, the XBOX 360 uses GDDR3 exclusively, developers don't seem to have latency issues with the XBOX 360. The clock speed basically negates the latency problem. DDR3 has a higher latency than DDR2, yet it's still faster even with the added latency... deltatux
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Ancient Guru ? Videocard: GTX660SC Processor: Core i7 2600K Mainboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Memory: 16gb G.Skill DDR3-1866 Soundcard: Creative Recon3D PCIe PSU: SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze	Games only have access to 5GB of the 8GB total system memory.....which doesn't make much sense to me. Do the OS and any other, non-gaming tasks, actually need 3GB? If so, that would make the Xbox OS more resource heavy than any version of Windows.
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Master Guru ? Videocard: 6870 900/1050 Processor: AMD FX 8350 4.4ghz Mainboard: ASUS M5A97 AM3+ Memory: 16gb ddr3 1866 Soundcard: PSU: corsair tx650	Quote: Games only have access to 5GB of the 8GB total system memory.....which doesn't make much sense to me. Do the OS and any other, non-gaming tasks, actually need 3GB? If so, that would make the Xbox OS more resource heavy than any version of Windows. i believe the xbox 1 has 3 operating systems on it from what the reveal said so i would guess they reserved 1gb to each one.
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Don Pinguccino ? Videocard: XFX Radeon HD 6870 Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K @4.5 Mainboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H Memory: Patriot 4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Soundcard: Auzentech X-Raider 7.1 PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W	Quote: Games only have access to 5GB of the 8GB total system memory.....which doesn't make much sense to me. Do the OS and any other, non-gaming tasks, actually need 3GB? If so, that would make the Xbox OS more resource heavy than any version of Windows. It's unfair for Microsoft to say that there's 3 OSes, there's really 2 sitting on top of a hypervisor. Likely the hypervisor takes up some memory and then the "XBOX OS" and "Windows 8-based OS" takes up memory too (since both are booted upon start-up). deltatux
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Master Guru ? Videocard: MSI 660ti PE SLI Processor: i5 3570K@4.1GHz Mainboard: Asrock Extreme 4 Memory: 16GB G-Skill Soundcard: PSU: Corsair AX 750w	Why do people care about the latency difference between ddr3 and gddr5.... The mhz more than makes up for it hence why sony are using it. They wouldnt use it if it was worse than ddr3 as ddr3 is cheaper anyway... and 32mb of ESRAM , dont care what you tell me 32mb in this day and age aside from Lx cache on processors is not enough to do a god damn thing. It creates another section the data will go through therefore making it more annoying to code than the ps4... NSAbox, no thankyou.
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Maha Guru ? Videocard: EVGA 660gtx sig2 Processor: i7 920 CNPS10X Quiet Mainboard: Evga x58 SLI LE Memory: 3x2gb Dominator@1600 6Gb Soundcard: Realtek HD Audio PSU: Antec Truepower 750	if they upgrade ram to be more i bet sony will do mad rush to do the same maybe even for the gpu ram speed. ATM MS is in brain storm mode to try and fix what the made mess of which they do alot of as of late Quote: Why do people care about the latency difference between ddr3 and gddr5.... The mhz more than makes up for it hence why sony are using it. They wouldnt use it if it was worse than ddr3 as ddr3 is cheaper anyway... and 32mb of ESRAM , dont care what you tell me 32mb in this day and age aside from Lx cache on processors is not enough to do a god damn thing. It creates another section the data will go through therefore making it more annoying to code than the ps4... NSAbox, no thankyou. GDDR5 is faster speeds, higher latency but more suited for smaller chucks of memory DDR3 is lower latency, lower speeds, but more suited for larger chunks of memory, Or so people that compare the 2 keep saying the normal user isnt gona see difference. Hence DDR3 is used as PC main ram cause it deals with Large chunks of data and GDDR5 is used in GPU as they mainly use smaller chunks of data. Last edited by tsunami231; Today at 18:14.
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Master Guru ? Videocard: MSI 660ti PE SLI Processor: i5 3570K@4.1GHz Mainboard: Asrock Extreme 4 Memory: 16GB G-Skill Soundcard: PSU: Corsair AX 750w	Nah sony dont have to do a thing. Their OS only uses 1GB leaving 7 and also they are beating the xbox by roughly .6-7 Tflops. They have won no matter what xbox one do.
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Maha Guru ? Videocard: EVGA 660gtx sig2 Processor: i7 920 CNPS10X Quiet Mainboard: Evga x58 SLI LE Memory: 3x2gb Dominator@1600 6Gb Soundcard: Realtek HD Audio PSU: Antec Truepower 750	Quote: Nah sony dont have to do a thing. Their OS only uses 1GB leaving 7 and also they are beating the xbox by roughly .6-7 Tflops. They have won no matter what xbox one do. They dont but they could which would put MS in bigger hole btw .6~.7 Tflops isnt a whole lot Anyway I think the most the can do is increase ram speed change ram amount this late would make then have to dump what ever they started to produce and if they didnt start producing them by now there will mass shortages. But then I could care less about what MS does I wont buy the console I dont care for this Camera/Motion crap MS is pushing down peoples throats and charging extra as a result. That and after the 360 and 4 RROD on system I played way less then my PS3 was enough for me to say never again any MS console, and I was already boycotting MS hardware. Last edited by tsunami231; Today at 18:25.
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Master Guru ? Videocard: MSI 660ti PE SLI Processor: i5 3570K@4.1GHz Mainboard: Asrock Extreme 4 Memory: 16GB G-Skill Soundcard: PSU: Corsair AX 750w	uh .6-7 Tflops is quiet a bit... im talking 1.3ish for xbone and 1.84 if i recall for the ps4. Nothing that RAM can fix. Slight CPU overlock would increase it minimally.
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Newbie ? Videocard: AMD Radeon HD7950 Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K Mainboard: MSI Z68a GD80 B3 Memory: Soundcard: Asus Xonar DG+Logitech PSU: Corsair TX650W V2	This article is a copy/paste from the one on the Examiner. Hilbert, is the source yours? Or are you just reporting the rumor?
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Maha Guru ? Videocard: EVGA 660gtx sig2 Processor: i7 920 CNPS10X Quiet Mainboard: Evga x58 SLI LE Memory: 3x2gb Dominator@1600 6Gb Soundcard: Realtek HD Audio PSU: Antec Truepower 750	in my eyes it is not not for console anyway seeing there already highly optimized for just that system and not 100's of different configs. PC might benfit more but that my opinion Changing ram speed and or add more would make just as little change too.
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Maha Guru ? Videocard: EVGA 660gtx sig2 Processor: i7 920 CNPS10X Quiet Mainboard: Evga x58 SLI LE Memory: 3x2gb Dominator@1600 6Gb Soundcard: Realtek HD Audio PSU: Antec Truepower 750	If gamespot or one of those other site like gamebomb etc report this would find it slightly more believe able
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